رساله على الايميل وحبيت انقلها لكم.....
الرجال يحدد مقاس ملابس المرأة الداخلية
مقال كتب في (الاسويشد برس) بقلم الصحافية دونا ابوناصر
وهنا ترجمة المقال مع وجود النسخة الانجليزية اسفل الترجمة
في السعودية المحافظة! الرجل يختار ملابس المرأة
امرأة ملتحفة بالسواد لايظهر منها سوى عيناها تمسك بيدها
حمالة صدر برتقالية وتسأل البائع بهمس اذا كان لديه
مقاسها.
"هل قلت 36 c؟ "
قالت المرأة:"لقد كان 36 في الماضي؟"
أجاب الرجل:اذا فالماضي تغير.
مثل هذا النقاش غير متوقع في بلد متحفظ جدا في الأمور
الأنثوية مثل السعودية
على الرغم من ذلك فعندما يتعلق الأمر ب
الملابس النسائية تجد النساء أنفسهن مجبرات على مناقشة
أكثر الأمور خصوصية مع رجال غرباء..والسبب هو أن أغلب
المحلات التجارية يديرها رجال فقط.والبديل الوحيدهو
بضعة مراكز خاصة بالنساء أو محلات تجارية على نظام
الأقسام حيث الخدمة هناك ذاتية ولكن الخيارات قليلة....
و تشاهد النساء خارج منازلهن ملتحفات بالسواد بما يسمى
العباية ,فاذا ظهر منهن يد أو قدم مرتدية الجينز,أو خصلة
شعر فمن الممكن ان يسبب لهن هذا متاعب لاحصر لها من
المطاوعة والتي هي أقوى شرطة دينية هناك........ويثار
الموضوع بين النساء على هذه الصورة"المجتمع يغطيكم
والبائع يعريكم"
تقول جيهان رمضان وهي محررة في الأخبارالعربية
اليومية:انه لأمر شائن.لاشىء يمكن أن يكون أكثر اذلالا"
وكتب محمد بن عبد الله الحواس لجريدة الوطن مؤخرا حول
مرافقته لزوجته الى المحل التجاري ورؤيتها تدخل في نقاش
خاص جدا مع رجل غريب حول مقاسات جسدها وقال:لم أستطع
تحمل ذلك وسحبت زوجتي خارجا"
وتستغرب الكاتبة"جهير المساعد حول السماح للنساء فى حضور
نصف يومين فقط لمعرض للكتاب الذي يستمر لمدة أسبوعين
كاملين,والسبب هو أن العارضين هم من الرجال
فقط..وقالت:ان الذي أغاظني فعلا هو أنه من المسموح
للمرأة أن تشتري ملابسها الداخلية من رجل غريب وليس لها
أن تشتري كتاب قد يثريها كانسانة من رجل أيضا"
بعض الانفتاح طرأ في الصحف السعودية سمح للنساء بالتحدث
عن معاناتهن وهذا الحق لم يكن لديهن لسنوات
خلت...........وعلى كل حال ليس هناك بوادر لتغيير أكبر
في اعطاء المرأة حرية أكثر رغم رغبة السعودية في تحسين
صورتها أمام الغرب بعد أحداث 11 سبتمبر...
لقد جعل البترول السعودية غنية ومتحضرة بشكل سريع لكن
التقاليد بقيت نفسها ولربما أصبحت أقوى كدرع واقي ضد
التأثير الأجنببي..و تقول المساعد أيضا:لأنه لا يوجد
مؤسسات دينية للتصرف في هذه الأمور فالأمر كله بيد
المطاوعة والذين ينظرون الى الأمور من ناحية واحدة.
قالت احدى السيدات التي لم تذكر اسمها خجلا أنها أخذت
زوجها مرة الى احدى هذه المحلات ,أملة أن يحرج وجوده
البائع فيهتم بشؤونه فقط,لكن البائع لم يفعل ذلك بل بالغ
في عرض بضاعته والتحدث عنها.
"لقد شعرت بالخزي الشديد ولم أعد التجربة مرة ثانية"هذا
ماقالته
وتقول المساعد أن على النساء أن يعملن في هذه المحلات
التجارية في كل مكان"
وقالت"اذا هم يسمحون للمرأة أن تذهب الى السوق وتشتري من
البائعين فلماذا لايسمحون لها بأن تبيع؟؟؟؟؟؟
وأقول أنا أن كل خشيتي الأن أن يمنعوها من أن تذهب الى
السوق أيضا على اعتبار أن هذا أفضل"
ولقد قال الأفوه الأودي:
لايصلح الناس فوضى لاسراة لهم ولاسراة اذا جهالهم سادوا
مع خالص تحياتى
In conservative Saudi Arabia, men determine the size of women's underwear
Tue Oct 15, 8:06 PM ET
By DONNA ABU-NASR, Associated Press Writer
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - The Saudi woman, swathed in black with only her eyes showing, held up a lacy orange bra and asked the salesman in a whisper if he had her size.
"Did you say 36C?" the man replied, loudly enough for other customers to hear. "Are you sure you don't need a bigger size?"
"It was 36C in the past," said the woman.
"Well, the past changes," responded the salesman.
It's not the kind of exchange one might expect in Saudi Arabia, where the sexes are segregated by an unwritten but stringent code. Yet when it comes to lingerie, women often find themselves having to discuss their most intimate details with strange men.
The reason is that in most stores, only men are allowed behind the counter.
The alternative is women-only shopping centers, of which there are few, or department stores, where it's self-service but the selection is narrower.
And once outside the house, women may only be seen as shapeless forms under black cloaks called abayas. A visible hand, jeans-clad leg or strand of hair can bring trouble from the muttawa, the powerful religious police.
The subject rouses much passion among women.
"Society covers you up and the salesman strips you down," said Gihan Ramadan, an online editor for Arab News daily. "It's outrageous. Nothing could be more humiliating."
Mohammed bin Abdullah al-Hawwas wrote to the newspaper Al Watan recently about accompanying his wife to a store and seeing her "engaged in a very private conversation with a strange man about her body measurements. ... I couldn't take it and I pulled my wife out."
Jehayeir al-Muassaid, a writer who has tackled this issue in Al Riyad newspaper, was particularly incensed about a two-week book fair that women were allowed to visit on only two half-days, closely watched by muttawa agents.
The reason given was that the vendors were men, said al-Muassaid.
"What makes me livid is that it's OK for a woman to buy underwear from a man who pulls and stretches each piece to show her how it can accommodate a certain body part and then rubs it to show her how she can wash out stains, but it's not OK for her to buy from a man a book that would enrich her as a person," she added. "What kind of logic is that?"
The same logic, apparently, allows lingerie store windows to display full-busted mannequins in skimpy underwear and sheer nightgowns.
On a recent morning, a muttawa agent bawled out a reporter at a mall for not wearing a head cover. Walking behind her he delivered a tirade interspersed with verses from the Quran, Islam's holy book. "Stop the defiance! Don't come to the souq uncovered!" he barked as he strode past a lingerie store displaying a blown-up picture of a denim bra and a mannequin dressed in a dark pink thong and matching skimpy nightgown.
Store windows are one thing, makeup stands another. These may not display pictures of women's faces that promote creams, eyeshadows and lipsticks.
Some stands defy the ban. At one, a staffer keeps a blank sheet of paper to cover the pictures in case the religious police show up. Another was less lucky with the same strategem. The muttawa caught him before he could cover up the photos, and ripped them up.
A slight opening-up of the Saudi press has allowed women to air some of their grievances, a right they did not have a few years ago. However, there are no indications women will be given more freedoms, even though Saudi Arabia — hurt by the Sept. 11 attacks in which 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi — seeks to repair its image in the West.
Al-Muassaid said one explanation for the contradictions arising from allowing men to sell lingerie while enforcing the rules of the abaya is that "the rush to turn the Saudi society into a consumer society was not matched with a drive to increase social awareness" to the changes.
Oil made the kingdom rich and modern in a hurry, but traditions stayed the same and were even strengthened as a shield against what are seen as malign Western influences.
In the old souqs, or markets, women were — and some still are — allowed to sell everything from spices to household wares. But when the modern shopping centers arrived, new rules were needed to keep the sexes apart.
"Since there are no civil institutions to handle such issues, the matter was left to the muttawa, who look in one direction only," Al-Muassaid said.
She said the contradictions also reflect how few opportunities women have for cultural enrichment.
"When they segregated us at school, they gave us teachers, pens, pencils, books and classes," she said. "But we have not been given the same opportunity as men to enrich ourselves outside the school."
At several gatherings of women in Riyadh, tips were exchanged about avoiding lingerie embarrassment — shop abroad, or go to department stores, or to women-only outlets.
One Saudi woman, too shy to give her name, said she once took her husband along to shop for a bra, hoping it would cow the salesman into minding his own business.
"But the salesman didn't care, displaying different bra models on the table," she said. "I was so embarrassed I just picked one in a hurry, hoping to make a quick escape.
"But the man didn't stop," she added. "He picked up some cups and showed me how I could paste them onto an evening dress and assured me they won't affect the shape of what's underneath. I was so mortified I haven't repeated the experience."
Al-Muassaid said women should be allowed to work in lingerie stores everywhere.
"If they allow women to go to the souq and buy from salesmen, why not allow women to sell?" she said.
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